the governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies,
or
Your Parents Can Leave Their Entire Estate to US - Which Is More WONDERFUL?
We alone can give you EVERLASTING poverty.
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You Could Be Washing Your Hair When The Telephone Rings.
You Could Be Burdened With Woes, And We Couldn't Care Less.
You Could Be Doing Something While We Sit On Our Fat Asses.
the governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
Your Choice.
i was interested by the suggestion in a recent discussion that rutherford was in some way preferable to fred franz, because i’ve not come across this view before.
it made me rethink my assumptions and try to work out why i hold the opposite view and prefer fred franz to rutherford.
i haven’t done any additional research, so i’m only drawing on what i can remember off the top of my head, but i thought i’d list a few things where i reckon fred franz’s approach was preferable to rutherford.
This is amusing to me, because to me this is a contest to decide the better of two evils. I understand that many here are in the "believers" class, but I'm not. I'm an atheist, and to me the entire issue sets off on the wrong foot:
First, with the assumption that there exists a "spirit realm" containing creatures both friendly and unfriendly to man. Maybe I should also add creatures who are indifferent to man's plight.
Second, that there *might* be elements of Watchtower dogma and expectations that are TRUTH.
It is like having an imaginary barrel that contains imaginary rotten, maggot-ridden fish and thinking, "Some of that fish might be tasty."
Rutherford was, MAYBE, an intelligent man whose major concern was HIMSELF, even to the exclusion of his wife and their son.
Franz was a religious fanatic who believed that he was "blessed" with special "spiritual" insight.
History has shown both of these fools to be LIARS.
Which LIES do you like more?
Even if you're "spiritually inclined," how can you think that there was any crumb on the table these guys set that was not poison?
If it was Tuesday and either one of them said it was Tuesday, I'd still check a calendar.
i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.
she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.
no one even remembered her.
Yes, SeaBreeze, please share those "similar stories.
"There is no time like the present" applies here. If you are concerned about being persecuted for telling the truth (and that is understandable), tell your truth in the most generic, anonymized way possible, without real names of people or places and without dates.
Too often things have gone unsaid because "time and circumstance" have made individuals mute. Please don't let that happen to you.
link to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.
https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.
if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.
I had no idea WHO Mark O'Donnell is, so I asked my robot friend, Gemini, "Who is the Mark O'Donnell being sued by The Watchtower?"
Gemini replied, "Based on the search results, the Burholme Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses, along with other congregations, has filed a lawsuit against a Mark O'Donnell in the Eastern District Court of Pennsylvania. The case number is 2:24-cv-00304, and it was filed on January 22, 2024. The nature of the suit is listed as "Other Statutes - Other Statutory Actions," with a cause of action related to 18:2511 Wiretapping."
I thought I'd share this if anyone else was also clueless like me.
If anyone wishes to add additional information or further clarification (in case Gemini was WRONG, which happens, those comments will be welcomed, of course.
i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.
she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.
no one even remembered her.
Anony Mous, can you give us the link to the ectopic pregnancy story, please? I couldn't find it.
I find these stories really sad and depressing, and for me, my dark, un-Christ-like sense of absurdity offers a bit of relief. To be honest, I'd get a kick from seeing my little scenario performed and presented either as a YouTube video, like "Kissing Hank's Ass" by Nimpsy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVXi0PmkRk)or performed live at the "Still Alive in 2025" apostate convention to be held in August 2025 in Boston, and recorded there
I think it would be funny if one or more of the "Elders" were played by females.
a jw once asked me if i knew that an "orange" is conscious and even though he did not explain further (told me i wasn't ready yet) i bet he never knew i would think of this from time to time over the years.
so i asked gemini what he could have meant and a lot of ideas came back, different philosophies and religions.. so i asked gemini, can you design a new religion by combining these ideas in a way that has not been done before and suggest a name for the religion and this is what it came back with:.
(ai generated text:).
Nicely done, Ballistic!
" (the watchtower, 10/1 1961, p. 596; bold added).
" (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703; bold added).
" (the watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599; bold added).
Delightedly we can observe that the FLESH that has actually been EATEN UP belonged to the nattering nabobs of negativism who dispensed this bilge, some almost literally so, dying of cancer.
C'mon, give me a smile! It is a good thing when these guys take their dirt naps. Let there be dancing in the streets!
PS - JanH was one of the GREAT apostates.
i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.
she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.
no one even remembered her.
Stan Livedeath confessed, "I enjoy blasphemy."
Then I'm your huckleberry, whatever THAT means.
i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.
she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.
no one even remembered her.
Currently I'm doing Dihydrogen Monoxide and Palmitoylethanolamide, but that's not important.
The important thing is: Did I amuse you? Did I give you a chuckle at the expense of Warchtower Elders?
